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(22:42 “This is such a love letter to Pink Floyd’s music and The Wall!”)
God, Critic really shot himself in the foot there. If there’s a gross parody of my music talking about how stupid and pretentious a film based off my personal experiences are, I should be flattered, I guess!
(23:03 (Critic has dotted marker on his face labeled “Person You Hate”)
Bendy: I think we can agree Pink hates himself. This is the part where he hallucinates that he’s a dictator.
Cuphead: Wait, doesn't Corey play Pink? This is a missed opportunity to let him sing!
Me: He's a professional singer who has fronted two bands... nope, better keep him silent for almost the entire review! :P
Yuri: The Critic just has to be the center of everything at all times...
(24:16 "I got some weird news for you, sunshine // This was ditchin' Thatcher's administration! // But it's vague enough to put anyone you feel; // Politician, showman, just put their face here!")
Yuri: Really? I got the impression Waters was calling out Nazis and anyone—including countries that praise themselves as WW2 heroes like Britain—who end up following their footsteps.
Me: Considering the rise of the alt-right in various countries including the US, The Wall’s message is more relevant than ever.
(24:35 “Bust! His! Balls!”)
Me: (as the Invisible Storm from Yuri Kuma Arashi) Exclude! Exclude! Exclude!
Bendy: (singing) Bring the beeeeeears back hooooooome!
(25:10 "Hashtag! Hashtag! Hashtag!")
Me: Ah ha! Another clumsy tone-deaf metaphor! Twitter is infamous for never banning Nazis, racists, TERFs, and sexist creeps, but hits the hammer on anyone who dares call them out.
Bendy: NC is trying to make authority figures sound like they’re the real victims when they’re clearly not!
Cuphead: (dramatic gesture) “Someone said I was being exploitative and offensive online? This is harassment, oh noooooo!”
(25:34 “Oh, sun! Oh, it's so bright! Oh! Uh, let's go back here. I-I don't like that. No, I don't. No, no, no.”)
Me: If you lived in Corpus Christi, you’d perfectly understand why I prefer staying inside. It’s an oven out there! :p
Cuphead: Hey look, accidental commentary on climate change!
(26:09 "It's us vs. them! I don't even know who us or them are! I just wanna be angry, so I can be...!")
Bendy: Doug’s really sour over the #ChangeTheChannel thing huh?
Yuri: Doug really has to be careful... he’s complained about the war references coming out of nowhere in The Wall, but now he’s anti-Twitter culture without any build-up to it. Pot meet kettle much?
Me: War was a major theme in The Wall since the beginning. In Critic’s review, he bitched how bad and pretentious the movie is but not once foreshadowed the toxicity of Twitter. So it really does make his sudden “message” about Twitter ring false and empty.
(26:57 "Don't worry! As long as you don't see me as human, you can hate me all you want!")
Cuphead: You know what’s going to stick with me for the rest of time? Not the 2D animation of the hammer army marching in the movie, but the CGI cell phones with the hammer symbol on them.
Yuri: It’s not even good CGI. This is on par with the Dedede and Dr. Eskargon CGI of the Kirby anime.
Me: Critic is robbing us by not showing clips of Gerald Scarfe’s animation. ;;
(28:47 “Briiiiiing the runtime down!”)
Me: Said the director of To Boldly Flee. -_-
(29:05 “So, Corey. Your analysis of Pink Floyd: The Wall has led you here. Do you now understand the deeper meaning of-- (phone rings)”)
Me: The review clocks in at 39:50. It’s nowhere near the end. =)
Bendy: For the love of...! (throws hands up) This "review" is too long!
(29:23 “Hello, Critic. It's Sullivan Croft.” “The Satellite City guy?”)
Cuphead: Wh-What? Who?
Me: HEY CRITIC, YOUR HYPOCRISY IS SHOWING
(30:19 "Style over substance, showcasing a bunch of weird creatures and worlds. Not a drop of intellectual development. All pen, no ink.")
Me: I... can’t actually criticize Lucy’s design. She’s creepy as hell, but at least it’s intentional.
(31:50 “Let me show you what happens when your dreams no longer need you.”)
Yuri: Lucy brings up some good points.
Me: I mean, I don’t fully agree with her, I don’t think every character needs to be fully fleshed out and developed to have significance, but she does talk about the importance of adapting to a different medium and how the strange and scary creatures give us a better look into Pink’s psyche than if we took a 100% realistic approach with no trippiness or nightmares.
(32:20 "From joys to gloooooom~!")
Me: (drops jaw) Her singing voice is good! I like her singing!
(32:47 "But with that, we have to say...")
Me: (jaw still on floor) And he’s good too!
Yuri: The animation is amateurish, but it’s engaging and clearly has room for potential. It’s like watching a spiritual successor to The Nightmare Before Christmas, in a good way.
(33:03 “Constantly dreaming...”)
Cuphead: Whoa! I was not expecting the Devil to show up!
(33:23 “Lazy... Constantly at it, being lazy...”)
Bendy: What does it have to do with The Wall though? The creatures are weird, but not in the Gerald Scarfe kind of weird. Sometimes it's hard to hear what they're singing too.
Me: Sadly, this is more in spirit of The Wall than anything else in the review. :/
(33:50 “We are bored of Alice, we want the Hatter! Just five minutes more, Your Honor. Them and us, alone.”)
Yuri: This part is definitely an homage to the final battle with Oogie-Boogie.
Me: Dammit, for once, I agree yet again! I would’ve loved to have more animated sequences!
(34:17 “WAAAAAAAIT!! This film's not bound by characters, it's a visual affair! It never aimed to tell a story, rather a sprawling canvas of emotion, visual splendor, And, Your Honor, we can take that home!”)
Me: I’m 100% on his side. It’s probably the nature of the original “The Trial,” but they’re bringing up different views in regards to The Wall, and they all have legitimate points! This has way more nuance than just “lol The Wall is pretentious it sucks it sucks” that we had to endure before.
(34:30 "Maybe they’re more to the picture // Just maybe, both sides of the wall...")
Me: Now I’m getting Pan’s Labyrinth vibes, like if the golden throne of heaven at the end had turned into a bunch of twisted clockwork. Ouch for Ofelia.
(34:32 "Genius, and nonsense, and creation!")
Yuri: This is more theatrical than Dictator Critic, and that’s saying a lot.
(35:05 "There's no need for the jury to retire!")
Me: OMG THAT SETTING. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN THE ENTIRE REVIEW?
(35:18 "In all my years of judging, I have never seen before // A film so deserving of both love and wanting more!")
Me: omg she even does the subtle foot stomp that the judge does in the original and skcjhdbtjfsuf
Bendy: I gotta admit... now that is an homage!
(35:31 "The way it makes you tougher // Makes you think and feel but suffer // Fills me with an urge to decapitate!")
Cuphead: Oh man, good word choice!
Me: I was seriously dreading this part of the review, but this is honestly the best. You can tell the animator actually liked the movie.
Yuri: I skipped to the end, and The Trial sequence has its own link! No need to skip through Critic’s review to watch it after all!
Everyone: Yaaaaaaaaay!
(35:49 "I believe...this film is apt with much to be revered! But the marvelous creatures should be adored, as opposed to being feared! Tear down the wall!")
Yuri: (smiles) Believe me, I already adore the creatures.
(36:00 [ANIMATED HAMMERS])
Me: WE FINALLY GOT THE HAMMERS! AAAAAAAAAAAAA
Yuri: Sorta?
Cuphead: Better than no hammers! ;D
(36:54 “We're stopping there?” “Well...yeah, the movie did.”)
Yuri: Not quite. We have one song to go.
(37:06 “Well, the movie ended on such an open vagueness, that it only makes sense that the review end on such an open vagueness.”)
Me: We’re skipping the last song too? Okay.
Cuphead: Look on the bright side, Puri. That's one less song he's ruined!
(37:17 “A little full of itself, but good music and imagination.”)
Yuri: You thought The Wall was a little full of itself?
Bendy: To semi-quote Corey, that’s the exact opposite of a review! You did nothing but talk about how crappy The Wall was and showed no insight or genuine critique until the last song!
Me: Oh yeah, the entire “Trial” sequence that I’ve just been praising? That wasn’t written by Doug. It was done by the animator of the sequence himself. That alone and the rise in quality compared to everything else explains so SO much.
(37:41 [Spongebob Squarepants theme])
Me: (sigh)
Bendy: The review didn’t earn that ending.
Me: Nope.
(38:17 [The End! Roll credits])
Me: I’m glad I didn’t ragequit after “Another Brick in the Wall” and “Goodbye Blue Sky” or I would’ve missed out. But oof, those were the parts that pissed me off and annoyed me the most. That, and "OMG I'M JESUS I'M JESUS!11!!11" It had all the worst aspects of the Critic: missing the point of the movie, cherry-picking scenes, oblivious to important context like British boarding school history and mental illness, then doubling down on all of these and making an absolute fool out of himself. I’m not surprised this review was a bomb that angered so many people.
Yuri: I just hope they’re not mean to Sam Feenah. Just because this was an awful review doesn’t mean everything in it was bad, nor does it mean all of Doug’s collaborators were bad too.
Me: Unfortunately, while there has been praise for "The Trail," Feenah's been yelling at anyone who's called his creatures "Deviantart OCs." Don't feed the trolls, man. :/
Cuphead: Critic just bashed The Wall all the way and refused to analyze it fairly until the very end, and even that was an afterthought slapped on after all the awful green screening and mangling Pink Floyd's music.
Bendy: Doug was the wrong person to review “The Wall.”
Me: If Doug had just done the research and made this more of an homage the way “The Trial” sequence did rather than make it a jeering hate letter, he could’ve avoided all this. The point of mistakes is to learn from them. And he’s... not doing that.
Thanks for watching with me, you three! Glad to have you.
Yuri: (smiles) You’re welcome, Miss Puri.
Cuphead: That was fun! ‘Til next time, eh Bendy?
Bendy: (grins) Sure!
(22:42 “This is such a love letter to Pink Floyd’s music and The Wall!”)
God, Critic really shot himself in the foot there. If there’s a gross parody of my music talking about how stupid and pretentious a film based off my personal experiences are, I should be flattered, I guess!
(23:03 (Critic has dotted marker on his face labeled “Person You Hate”)
Bendy: I think we can agree Pink hates himself. This is the part where he hallucinates that he’s a dictator.
Cuphead: Wait, doesn't Corey play Pink? This is a missed opportunity to let him sing!
Me: He's a professional singer who has fronted two bands... nope, better keep him silent for almost the entire review! :P
Yuri: The Critic just has to be the center of everything at all times...
(24:16 "I got some weird news for you, sunshine // This was ditchin' Thatcher's administration! // But it's vague enough to put anyone you feel; // Politician, showman, just put their face here!")
Yuri: Really? I got the impression Waters was calling out Nazis and anyone—including countries that praise themselves as WW2 heroes like Britain—who end up following their footsteps.
Me: Considering the rise of the alt-right in various countries including the US, The Wall’s message is more relevant than ever.
(24:35 “Bust! His! Balls!”)
Me: (as the Invisible Storm from Yuri Kuma Arashi) Exclude! Exclude! Exclude!
Bendy: (singing) Bring the beeeeeears back hooooooome!
(25:10 "Hashtag! Hashtag! Hashtag!")
Me: Ah ha! Another clumsy tone-deaf metaphor! Twitter is infamous for never banning Nazis, racists, TERFs, and sexist creeps, but hits the hammer on anyone who dares call them out.
Bendy: NC is trying to make authority figures sound like they’re the real victims when they’re clearly not!
Cuphead: (dramatic gesture) “Someone said I was being exploitative and offensive online? This is harassment, oh noooooo!”
(25:34 “Oh, sun! Oh, it's so bright! Oh! Uh, let's go back here. I-I don't like that. No, I don't. No, no, no.”)
Me: If you lived in Corpus Christi, you’d perfectly understand why I prefer staying inside. It’s an oven out there! :p
Cuphead: Hey look, accidental commentary on climate change!
(26:09 "It's us vs. them! I don't even know who us or them are! I just wanna be angry, so I can be...!")
Bendy: Doug’s really sour over the #ChangeTheChannel thing huh?
Yuri: Doug really has to be careful... he’s complained about the war references coming out of nowhere in The Wall, but now he’s anti-Twitter culture without any build-up to it. Pot meet kettle much?
Me: War was a major theme in The Wall since the beginning. In Critic’s review, he bitched how bad and pretentious the movie is but not once foreshadowed the toxicity of Twitter. So it really does make his sudden “message” about Twitter ring false and empty.
(26:57 "Don't worry! As long as you don't see me as human, you can hate me all you want!")
Cuphead: You know what’s going to stick with me for the rest of time? Not the 2D animation of the hammer army marching in the movie, but the CGI cell phones with the hammer symbol on them.
Yuri: It’s not even good CGI. This is on par with the Dedede and Dr. Eskargon CGI of the Kirby anime.
Me: Critic is robbing us by not showing clips of Gerald Scarfe’s animation. ;;
(28:47 “Briiiiiing the runtime down!”)
Me: Said the director of To Boldly Flee. -_-
(29:05 “So, Corey. Your analysis of Pink Floyd: The Wall has led you here. Do you now understand the deeper meaning of-- (phone rings)”)
Me: The review clocks in at 39:50. It’s nowhere near the end. =)
Bendy: For the love of...! (throws hands up) This "review" is too long!
(29:23 “Hello, Critic. It's Sullivan Croft.” “The Satellite City guy?”)
Cuphead: Wh-What? Who?
Me: HEY CRITIC, YOUR HYPOCRISY IS SHOWING
(30:19 "Style over substance, showcasing a bunch of weird creatures and worlds. Not a drop of intellectual development. All pen, no ink.")
Me: I... can’t actually criticize Lucy’s design. She’s creepy as hell, but at least it’s intentional.
(31:50 “Let me show you what happens when your dreams no longer need you.”)
Yuri: Lucy brings up some good points.
Me: I mean, I don’t fully agree with her, I don’t think every character needs to be fully fleshed out and developed to have significance, but she does talk about the importance of adapting to a different medium and how the strange and scary creatures give us a better look into Pink’s psyche than if we took a 100% realistic approach with no trippiness or nightmares.
(32:20 "From joys to gloooooom~!")
Me: (drops jaw) Her singing voice is good! I like her singing!
(32:47 "But with that, we have to say...")
Me: (jaw still on floor) And he’s good too!
Yuri: The animation is amateurish, but it’s engaging and clearly has room for potential. It’s like watching a spiritual successor to The Nightmare Before Christmas, in a good way.
(33:03 “Constantly dreaming...”)
Cuphead: Whoa! I was not expecting the Devil to show up!
(33:23 “Lazy... Constantly at it, being lazy...”)
Bendy: What does it have to do with The Wall though? The creatures are weird, but not in the Gerald Scarfe kind of weird. Sometimes it's hard to hear what they're singing too.
Me: Sadly, this is more in spirit of The Wall than anything else in the review. :/
(33:50 “We are bored of Alice, we want the Hatter! Just five minutes more, Your Honor. Them and us, alone.”)
Yuri: This part is definitely an homage to the final battle with Oogie-Boogie.
Me: Dammit, for once, I agree yet again! I would’ve loved to have more animated sequences!
(34:17 “WAAAAAAAIT!! This film's not bound by characters, it's a visual affair! It never aimed to tell a story, rather a sprawling canvas of emotion, visual splendor, And, Your Honor, we can take that home!”)
Me: I’m 100% on his side. It’s probably the nature of the original “The Trial,” but they’re bringing up different views in regards to The Wall, and they all have legitimate points! This has way more nuance than just “lol The Wall is pretentious it sucks it sucks” that we had to endure before.
(34:30 "Maybe they’re more to the picture // Just maybe, both sides of the wall...")
Me: Now I’m getting Pan’s Labyrinth vibes, like if the golden throne of heaven at the end had turned into a bunch of twisted clockwork. Ouch for Ofelia.
(34:32 "Genius, and nonsense, and creation!")
Yuri: This is more theatrical than Dictator Critic, and that’s saying a lot.
(35:05 "There's no need for the jury to retire!")
Me: OMG THAT SETTING. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN THE ENTIRE REVIEW?
(35:18 "In all my years of judging, I have never seen before // A film so deserving of both love and wanting more!")
Me: omg she even does the subtle foot stomp that the judge does in the original and skcjhdbtjfsuf
Bendy: I gotta admit... now that is an homage!
(35:31 "The way it makes you tougher // Makes you think and feel but suffer // Fills me with an urge to decapitate!")
Cuphead: Oh man, good word choice!
Me: I was seriously dreading this part of the review, but this is honestly the best. You can tell the animator actually liked the movie.
Yuri: I skipped to the end, and The Trial sequence has its own link! No need to skip through Critic’s review to watch it after all!
Everyone: Yaaaaaaaaay!
(35:49 "I believe...this film is apt with much to be revered! But the marvelous creatures should be adored, as opposed to being feared! Tear down the wall!")
Yuri: (smiles) Believe me, I already adore the creatures.
(36:00 [ANIMATED HAMMERS])
Me: WE FINALLY GOT THE HAMMERS! AAAAAAAAAAAAA
Yuri: Sorta?
Cuphead: Better than no hammers! ;D
(36:54 “We're stopping there?” “Well...yeah, the movie did.”)
Yuri: Not quite. We have one song to go.
(37:06 “Well, the movie ended on such an open vagueness, that it only makes sense that the review end on such an open vagueness.”)
Me: We’re skipping the last song too? Okay.
Cuphead: Look on the bright side, Puri. That's one less song he's ruined!
(37:17 “A little full of itself, but good music and imagination.”)
Yuri: You thought The Wall was a little full of itself?
Bendy: To semi-quote Corey, that’s the exact opposite of a review! You did nothing but talk about how crappy The Wall was and showed no insight or genuine critique until the last song!
Me: Oh yeah, the entire “Trial” sequence that I’ve just been praising? That wasn’t written by Doug. It was done by the animator of the sequence himself. That alone and the rise in quality compared to everything else explains so SO much.
(37:41 [Spongebob Squarepants theme])
Me: (sigh)
Bendy: The review didn’t earn that ending.
Me: Nope.
(38:17 [The End! Roll credits])
Me: I’m glad I didn’t ragequit after “Another Brick in the Wall” and “Goodbye Blue Sky” or I would’ve missed out. But oof, those were the parts that pissed me off and annoyed me the most. That, and "OMG I'M JESUS I'M JESUS!11!!11" It had all the worst aspects of the Critic: missing the point of the movie, cherry-picking scenes, oblivious to important context like British boarding school history and mental illness, then doubling down on all of these and making an absolute fool out of himself. I’m not surprised this review was a bomb that angered so many people.
Yuri: I just hope they’re not mean to Sam Feenah. Just because this was an awful review doesn’t mean everything in it was bad, nor does it mean all of Doug’s collaborators were bad too.
Me: Unfortunately, while there has been praise for "The Trail," Feenah's been yelling at anyone who's called his creatures "Deviantart OCs." Don't feed the trolls, man. :/
Cuphead: Critic just bashed The Wall all the way and refused to analyze it fairly until the very end, and even that was an afterthought slapped on after all the awful green screening and mangling Pink Floyd's music.
Bendy: Doug was the wrong person to review “The Wall.”
Me: If Doug had just done the research and made this more of an homage the way “The Trial” sequence did rather than make it a jeering hate letter, he could’ve avoided all this. The point of mistakes is to learn from them. And he’s... not doing that.
Thanks for watching with me, you three! Glad to have you.
Yuri: (smiles) You’re welcome, Miss Puri.
Cuphead: That was fun! ‘Til next time, eh Bendy?
Bendy: (grins) Sure!
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Date: 2019-10-07 09:38 pm (UTC)NOT THAT YOU'RE BITTER OR ANYTHING, RIGHT DOUG?
i have not actually watched this review *or* The Wall but lord. even rewatching nc's older stuff once i got older left me pretty :| and that was BEFORE the Change The Channel scandal happened.
i haven't properly seen his stuff in a while but my memories are of a dude who has some talent but too much of an ego to actually nurture it because that would require him to actually seriously pay attention to areas he needs to work on and also learn how to work with other people and their feedback.
i feel like a good example of this dude's attitude is when he made a joke about how hoarse a voice actor called mako was during his role in a tmnt movie, and then when people got mad about that because said role was one of the final ones mako took on while he was dying of esophageal cancer he... went "I'm sorry, I didn't know," but then immediately undermined it with a ~joke~ about how MAKO IS JESUS WHO CANNOT BE CRITICIZED and implying that he was being crucified for an innocent mistake by a rabid fanbase.
ANYWAY I WENT ON A RANT THERE WHOOPS I should try giving The Wall a watch sometime, I don't watch movies for adults very often but I do like surreal animated stuff.
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Date: 2019-10-11 05:08 pm (UTC)The Wall is one of my favorite movies. ♥ I remember showing The Trial sequence on the last day of my Banned Books class (our professor asked us to share something that impacted us emotionally) and how quiet everyone was when it finished.