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shamanicshayminMan, reading Zar's review on Thief and the Cobbler is so cathartic it isn't funny.
Which makes me think of another animated movie (well, animated for several scenes anyway): Pink Floyd's The Wall.
It kinda has several elements in common with Cobbler. Gorgeous animation? Check. WTFery and symbolism? Check. Propaganda? Check. Almost no spoken dialogue? Check. Intended for "mature" audiences? Check. DEEP ARTISTIK MEANING!!11!1 Check. Heralded as a cult classic? Check.
The Wall has several things going for it though. Obviously the music helped, it's Pink Floyd for god's sake. While convoluted and making no sense often, The Wall is more interpretive than Cobbler, and not only that, it has a story. It's got something to say. Cobbler was about looking pretty and oh yeah getting back some golden balls. The characters were just that, paper painted over with lines and ink and no depth. Meanwhile, we barely scratch the dust off the bricks in the wall and I already know so much about Pink and his mother that it's painful. We're watching a monster tear its way out of its old skin. Through Cobbler, I'm just eh, whatever, I like the eye candy. But I'm glued to The Wall even during the slow segments, feeling trapped and uncomfortable. In a good way. I could relate to The Wall while Cobbler was just a bunch of fancy bows and flowers with no heart or sentience behind them.
The ultimate difference between the two, plot aside? The ultimate question: "What's the point?" I found myself asking that during Cobbler several times. But for The Wall, I already knew. It didn't even prompt me; all it did was nod its head with me.
Which makes me think of another animated movie (well, animated for several scenes anyway): Pink Floyd's The Wall.
It kinda has several elements in common with Cobbler. Gorgeous animation? Check. WTFery and symbolism? Check. Propaganda? Check. Almost no spoken dialogue? Check. Intended for "mature" audiences? Check. DEEP ARTISTIK MEANING!!11!1 Check. Heralded as a cult classic? Check.
The Wall has several things going for it though. Obviously the music helped, it's Pink Floyd for god's sake. While convoluted and making no sense often, The Wall is more interpretive than Cobbler, and not only that, it has a story. It's got something to say. Cobbler was about looking pretty and oh yeah getting back some golden balls. The characters were just that, paper painted over with lines and ink and no depth. Meanwhile, we barely scratch the dust off the bricks in the wall and I already know so much about Pink and his mother that it's painful. We're watching a monster tear its way out of its old skin. Through Cobbler, I'm just eh, whatever, I like the eye candy. But I'm glued to The Wall even during the slow segments, feeling trapped and uncomfortable. In a good way. I could relate to The Wall while Cobbler was just a bunch of fancy bows and flowers with no heart or sentience behind them.
The ultimate difference between the two, plot aside? The ultimate question: "What's the point?" I found myself asking that during Cobbler several times. But for The Wall, I already knew. It didn't even prompt me; all it did was nod its head with me.
