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Puri ([personal profile] shamanicshaymin) wrote2012-02-06 08:15 am

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"Ugh, what a day I had! I'm so mad at this idiot at work who--"
"ABLEIIIIIIST!!1!1"
"What?"
"You used the word 'mad', and that means crazy, so you're insulting the mentally ill. And you called a person an 'idiot', and that is a slur against the mentally disabled!"

Gods, the Internet is giving me such a headache. Apparently, it's a fad now to be offended by EVERYTHING. Someone says something you don't agree with? It "triggers" you. You're offended by what a person has said? Call them "ableist."

To the people who throw around "ableist", "trigger", and "oppressive" like free candy, remember what dear old Inigo Montoya once said: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

In a sort of related note, I had a dream I was studying Maurice with my high school English class. Of course, the kids around me acted like immature, homophobic morons. And I was the awkward kid everyone kept staring at. Ugh. I always feel like I'm in another planet in environments like these, because I can't help but think everyone's head would explode as soon as they have had their first encounter with fandom. (Welcome to Harry Potter, home of ten katrillion crackships!) You'd think we'd have gotten over homophobia by now, but nope. Like, this would be high school class's reaction if they had to read Giovanni's Room:

People: dude it's gay this book sucks. *doesn't even bother with the themes/plot/writing, all they care about is "it's gay" and whine about it over and over*
Me: No, it sucks because the main character is a self-pitying whiner that learns nothing by the ending except that life is unfair (which he already knew), and the only person I don't want to punch in the face is the chick the MC is using to cling to the "fact" that he is straight.

I'm glad I graduated. While I only spent two years at the university at Austin, at least it was LGBT-friendly based off the places I visited. :/

Meanwhile, I've been replaying SA2B and raising Chao.

- I've forgotten how tsundere half the cast is, especially Shadow. <.<;;;
- Security Hall still needs to die in a fire.
- Something funny happened while I was at Egg Quarters. You know how Omao-Chao makes these pained cries and lectures you when you beat him up? I think I pulled a glitch or something, because while I was trying to find a key, I kept hearing Omao-Chao screaming every few seconds. Now that is something that doesn't happen everyday. 8)
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probably gonna get screamed at by someone for saying this but idc

[personal profile] sarajayechan 2012-02-06 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Gods, the Internet is giving me such a headache. Apparently, it's a fad now to be offended by EVERYTHING. Someone says something you don't agree with? It "triggers" you. You're offended by what a person has said? Call them "ableist."

To the people who throw around "ableist", "trigger", and "oppressive" like free candy, remember what dear old Inigo Montoya once said: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


THANK YOU. God, ever since 2008 the internet's been hypersensitive about language, everything anyone says is an -ism and anyone who rightfully doesn't understand why something innocuous is suddenly a forbidden word needs to "check their privilege at the door and educate themselves". What's next, we can't say "jerk" because it's an affront to people who have anger management issues? Fine, then, I'll stick to jackass...oh, wait, we can't say that, it might offend MULES!
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Re: probably gonna get screamed at by someone for saying this but idc

[personal profile] sarajayechan 2012-02-06 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Especially if you happen to be white. Buuut that's a whole other rant. XD;

I've SEEN truly privileged and ignorant people. Recently I dealt with someone who made a disgusting rape joke and didn't seem to get why it might bother people, and when she DID apologize it came off as insincere and douchey. THAT is the kind of thing worth frothing and shrieking about, not someone who honestly doesn't see why "crazy" or "mad" are suddenly Bad Words.
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[personal profile] swordianmaster 2012-02-06 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, "jerk" would be an affront to Jamaican cooking.

Which in and of itself is offensive to working tastebuds.

OH SNAP I SAID IT, SOMEBODY BETTER HAND OUT THE BANS OH MAI.

Really, the fan-actress for Derpy (pre Last Roundup) put it best: They treated Derpy like ANY OTHER PONY, which is EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES EVER WANTS. And then these White Knights come riding in, saying WE CAN'T SHOW THAT THEY EXIST WITHOUT PUTTING THEM ON A MAGICAL PEDESTAL OF LIGHT and UGHHH NO YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.
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[personal profile] sarajayechan 2012-02-06 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
O NOES!!!

Well, I DO understand how people might've been taken aback by Derpy in TLR. I myself just saw her as a dorkier and clumsier Pinkie Pie, but if she really DOES have a disability, I can see how it'd be offputting for her main appearance to be mucking things up. They probably don't think the disabled should be put on a pedestal, but they don't like the idea of treating them as shallow comic relief either.

But, that's just the take of someone who's only heard about half the FULL story and only seen Derpy in that one episode. XD; So I dunno, I could just be talking out of my ass here!

Otherwise...yeah. Should we respect people regardless of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, mental capacities, physical abilities, etc? Hell yeah. But there's a difference between real respect and just putting them on a pedestal so we feel less guilty.
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[personal profile] swordianmaster 2012-02-07 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
"The true sign of equality is not when a minority is permitted to be a hero, but when they are permitted to be a villain for reasons other than their race/disability/gender." -[livejournal.com profile] bossgoji
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[personal profile] sarajayechan 2012-02-07 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
...that's a good quote, and I agree. The whole Magical Negro or Inspirational Disabled Person business gets pretty old (unless the latter is inspirational in the "I don't let it rule my life, I'm just as human as anyone else" sense because that's actually a good lesson to learn). And while Action Girls and women getting to be badass is a good thing, some take it too far by claiming girly princesses or housewives are "a step backwards"/"setting the women's movement back 50 years" and screeching that an Action Girl was "derailed" simply because she lost a fight/a woman is being portrayed as a harpy because she has a moment of irrationality.
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[personal profile] daisy_the_mage1 2012-02-07 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this - seriously. Sure, minorities being heroes/protagonists is a good thing but the point promotiing equality is to show that they are human beings, just like everyone else. I mean, action women? That's great because it shows that not all women have to be weak/submissive/whatever. But that doesn't mean a housewife character is necessarily a bad thing (also, housewife =/= weak/submissive and action girl =/= super tough woman who is not afraid of anything but that's another rant entirely). Women are human beings, just like men, are not exactly the same as each other. Some are kind, some are horrible. Some are outgoing, some are shy. Some are rebellious, some are obedient. Some don't want children, some do. And so on.

I mean, I wouldn't necessarily mind being a housewife and raising my kids as long as it was purely my own choice and my husband is grateful to me in looking after the house and doesn't take it for granted. And like hell am I going to pressure other women to do the same thing.

Sorry if I confuse you in this but TL;DR - feminism is about getting women and men to be treated as individual humans. And I'd say similar things with anti-ableism, anti-homophobia, etc.
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Another potential lamb to the altar...

[personal profile] mikogalatea 2012-02-06 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally hear you about the Word Police, as I tend to think of them (and which I treat as a different thing from political correctness). It's like every other word is suddenly the Worst Slur Ever that you can never say again because it makes you an irredeemable douchebag no matter what; it almost makes me afraid to talk at times, pathetic as it may sound.

And yes, they definitely need to stop throwing the word "trigger" around as easily as they do. Protip, guys: Something that simply makes you angry is a berserk button, not a trigger.
Edited (bit of clarification) 2012-02-06 22:55 (UTC)
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Re: Another potential lamb to the altar...

[personal profile] swordianmaster 2012-02-07 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, a trigger sets off trauma, not anger. Ask anybody who's been abused or had PTSD.

A disability is not PTSD unless you lost your legs in the war or something.
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Re: Another potential lamb to the altar...

[personal profile] sarajayechan 2012-02-07 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Protip, guys: Something that simply makes you angry is a berserk button, not a trigger.

YES. Rape jokes, eating disorders, violence and misogyny? Triggers. People typing in block caps, using ellipses, (cozy) emotes on Plurk, fart jokes? NOT TRIGGERS.
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[personal profile] swordianmaster 2012-02-07 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
My parents were killed by a renegade fart. Fart jokes are VERY UPSETTING TO ME, OKAY Q_Q
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[personal profile] sarajayechan 2012-02-07 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
OMG I'M SO SORRY SHALL I BOW DOWN AND LICK YOUR BOOTS IN PENANCE?
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Re: Another potential lamb to the altar...

[personal profile] daisy_the_mage1 2012-02-07 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god, I don't like fart jokes but at worst, I'd sigh, think it's not funny and move on, not bothering the person who made it. But a....trigger? Er....whut?
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Re: Another potential lamb to the altar...

[personal profile] swordianmaster 2012-02-07 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Hell, depending on who you ask, bullying isn't even a trigger.

After all, most of the MTV generation (and a fair number of their kids) grew up with the mindset that "if you can't fight back, expect your childhood to be hell". Sugarcoating the world for kids has, in turn, reduced their resistance to how shitty life gets, meaning that the same bullying that parents had to deal with is now driving more and more kids to suicide and homicide.

Yes, again, I just went there. I believe moral guardians are partially at fault for bullying being as big of an issue as it is nowdays.
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[personal profile] daisy_the_mage1 2012-02-07 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
As I said on your post on LJ. While I do believe that people need to watch their words so that they think about how they treat other people/how considerate they of other people, the wank on LJ has gotten to the point where some people refrain from posting anything that might (I say 'might', not 'will') come across as -ist/-phobic in case they get dogpiled. And how does that help social justice at all?! Sure, watching your words is a good thing but being afraid to speak at all is not.
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[personal profile] daisy_the_mage1 2012-02-09 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
God yes, especially if you are from the oppressed minority group in question but don't have the exact same opinion and are afraid of voicing it because you are afraid you will get dogpiled, anyway. No group holds a monolithic view and there will always be disagreements (eg. I have Asperger's Syndrome and I don't like being called 'differently-abled'. I find it a very vague term. I mean, if other people with Asperger's want to be called that, okay, that's their preference and I shouldn't silence them, but personally, I don't like to be called that).
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[personal profile] tropicsbear 2012-02-07 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
Gods, the Internet is giving me such a headache. Apparently, it's a fad now to be offended by EVERYTHING. Someone says something you don't agree with? It "triggers" you. You're offended by what a person has said? Call them "ableist."
THIS. Everyone's taking being politically correct to a ridiculous new level 8|
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[personal profile] pirorin 2012-02-17 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
I WANT TO MAKE LOVE TO THIS POST. Just. Internet, calm down.