Tumblr turns to McCarthyism as usual.

[shamanicshaymin]

Pokemon, Digimon, Yu-Gi-Oh, Sailor Moon, Utena, Madoka, etc: *writes and draws smut featuring aged-up versions of characters who are canonically kids or teenagers in the show/games/etc.*
Fandom Police: ...
Undertale: *does the same thing*
Fandom Police: OMG DISGUSTING!!1!1! AGING THEM UP DOES NOTHING TO COVER THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A FUCKING PEDOPHILE!!11!11

Seriously. Grow the fuck up.

Comments

[traitortoheaven]

I've. Actually seen people flip their shit in Utena fandom, too. It's not as COMMON as it is in Undertale, but it does happen.

The double standard does make me cringe, either way. Do people just not get that they don't get to pick and choose what is or isn't acceptable? Either you're for aging up or against it, folks.

[shamanicshaymin]

I mentioned Utena mainly because a lot of the official art features all kinds of pairings in suggestive poses (including a naked Anthy with Akio), and I've never seen tumblr wring their hands and declare Utena problematic for it.

It's weird this is happening with newer fandoms, because if you tried to cry PEDOPHILE in Pokemon or Digimon, you'd be laughed out of there with porn that's more disturbing.

[traitortoheaven]

WELL UTENA IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S CANON GAY AND WE NEED MORE PORN OF UTENA AND ANTHY DUE TO THAT BECAUSE something something blah blah blah no I can't even be a snarky asshole about this, it's too hideous.

...every time I think of Pokemon porn that's "more disturbing," I think of this picture my Dad had to confiscate from one of his students once. It was of Nurse Joy with a bunch of Pikachus. I've never seen the picture, but you know. It's Pokemon fandom. Both of us can fill the blanks.

[sarajayechan]

Back in my day, people who got up in arms about Pokemon porn were more "concerned" that the fans were wanting to fuck actual Pokemon and barely raised an eyebrow at all the underage Ash/Misty lemons.

[mikogalatea]

... is it just me, or do fans tend to be way more up-in-arms about porn based on Western-created canons like Undertale and Steven Universe than they do about anime porn? The double standard is absurd either way, not to mention that being that hard against age-ups for that reason carries some weird implications.

[militarypenguin]

I've noticed this too. I've seen posts made by fans of anime telling people not to draw porn of cartoons aimed at kids, and meanwhile I'm just going, "So, uh, who's going to tell them about the age demographic of all those shounen series they love to draw porn of."

[shamanicshaymin]

That's 'cause anime is for the ~*~cool older kids~*~. All Western animation (unless it's based off comics or live-action) is automatically for kids and should be held sacred as such.

[shamanicshaymin]

Ooh, ooh, or the logic that drawing porn of characters who are already adults is pedophiliac because they're from a children's show! "STOP DRAWING PORN OF THE CRYSTAL GEMS, YOU'RE CORRUPTING THE YOUTH OF AMERICAAAAA"

The double standard is absurd either way, not to mention that being that hard against age-ups for that reason carries some weird implications.

I don't want to see characters like Frisk and Asriel banging each other as kids. Why do you think fans like me aged them up in the first place?

[traitortoheaven]

Maybe it's because so many people actually believe the age of consent thing re: Japan.

...which is pretty racist tbh.

[sarajayechan]

Just like the ATLA fandom, where 14-year-old Katara kissing 12-year-old Aang is "ewwww" but 16-year-old-Zuko fucking 14-year-old Katara is totally okay. Well, maybe not JUST like it, but similar. It still all boils down to concern trolling and whining.

[shamanicshaymin]

I really want to link these people to the F+ episode covering some prompts from the Supernatural kink meme to remind them what pedophilia is. Now THAT is some skin-peelingly creepy shit right there. (TW: BESTIALITY, DE-AGING RPF, AND ALL KINDS OF TWISTED)

[sarajayechan]

I want to link them to nifty.org and its "Sissyboy" section myself. Not only is it full of REAL pedophilia (the average age for little boys to get their freak on is ten), but its rendition of a world where gay males are the norm is actually homophobic as shit! :D

As for the podcast, Supernatural fandom is into sooooo many fucked up kinks. And while I'm so anti-kinkshaming, I still fail to see how this shit gets overlooked while the Fandom Moral Guardians piss their pants over some tasteful smut of aged-up characters from a cartoon.

[erinptah]

Are you seeing this from the same people...?

Because the "sexualizing adults who used to be children is pedophilic!" brain-twister is a recent innovation, and that first run of fandoms you listed are all shows I remember from middle/high school. They aren't the fannish entry points for people who are currently tweens/teens. Those kids are coming in through Undertale -- and Steven Universe, Homestuck, Gravity Falls, Frozen, the latest run of Precure -- all fandoms where I feel like this kind of anti-logic has more of a foothold.

Honestly, I think 90% of it is young people who aren't comfortable with certain sexual things. Which would be fine on its own, everyone has a right to their squicks and their boundaries, but they feel the need to come up with an Internet Social Justice justification for why this is an Absolute Moral Wrong instead of, y'know, something they personally don't like.

[shamanicshaymin]

It's weird because I'm used to hanging out with people my age on the Internet, so it's difficult to tell whether these are squicked out 13-year-olds or Moral Guardians.